I just want to let everyone know I've suspended posting privileges for gkamburoff. I have zero tolerance for any snotty jackass who uses the term "denier." Sorry.
My oracles of the Battle against "Climate Change Panic" (for trillions of dollars of taxpayer funded, disgusting graft) are Dr. William Happer and Ronald Stein. There are many others, featured on substack, but after 40 years of shouting in the wilderness the tide may be turning. We need to emphasize, in no uncertain terms, that it's "civilized" world's tax dollars, that fund so called "renewable energy".
Respectfully, there is no real science that supports any kind of climate crisis. There’s nothing to discuss. Look around and tell us where the climate crisis is… where is the real need for an energy transition? You cannot do it.
The Last Time Oceans Got This Acidic This Fast, 96% of Marine Life Went Extinct
The biggest extinction event in planetary history was driven by the rapid acidification of our oceans, a new study concludes. So much carbon was released into the atmosphere, and the oceans absorbed so much of it so quickly, that marine life simply died off, from the bottom of the food chain up.
That doesn’t bode well for the present, given the disturbingly similar rate that our seas are acidifying right now. Parts of the Pacific, for instance, are already so acidic that sea snails’ shells begin dissolving as soon as they’re born.
No need, thanks. With respect, we are living in an interglacial period when temperatures are naturally warmer on Earth and UHI effects are numerous (Note: This interglacial period is cooler than all four prior interglacial periods in the last 500,000 years when GHG levels, particularly CO2, were much lower. In other words, GHG levels are higher now, but temperature isn't). Although physics requires that GHGs must contribute to warming, the total impact at current and foreseeable levels is insignificant. 2-deg F average warming in 150 years, does not constitute a crisis now or in the imminent future. I will not consider walking away from my quality of life now, nor will I threaten it for future generations. Cheers!
Yep, renewables are a threat to the grids everywhere as well. The more of these low availability and totally unmanageable power sources we install the bigger the threat to grid operations and grid stability. Just ask Germany! The cost of renewable power is historically higher than anything else. There’s nothing “free” about free energy!
…and a bane on the fishing industry and wildlife See what’s dead under those land windmills then note the effects the drilling underwater is having on the sonar of sea life. They are a POX, as are ‘Solar Farms’. One hailstorm wipes them out but the subsidies ran out so they are left to rot acre after acre. Windmills are fibreglass, never decompose and not recyclable. The ‘Science people’ never thought it out.
I am so glad to see you folks are smarter than the professional engineers, managers, accountants, and construction crews of power utilities. Go tell them and remember to include your names and addresses so you get full credit.
Your mistake is someone never taught you about a "control surface".
Every one of the proponents of "renewable" energy have too small a control surface in their "Green" Energy viability calculations.
If they expand the control surface to include using alternate energy to build and run the equipment that mines the ore, transports it, manufactures the solar panels, wind generators, concrete bases, etc (.... I could go on for paragraphs...) to install a "Green" energy backbone, you'll find out too late that "green" energy can NEVER replace itself when it wears out. It is a dead end road.
Bridge out ahead, Bud, on the Green energy Road to Hell!
Maybe oil, coal, and so on only will last the world a few hundred years, then they'll have to figure something out. But "Green" Energy will knock the population count down way before that. Lots of minds will be lost who could have come up with actual solutions.
the con of cons is that man’s actions affect the climate and if we only destroy our standard of living we will have a perfect climate - the real objective of the climatistas is the destruction of society
The people that need to READ this are Mark Carney stand-in as PM of Canada, Kier Starmer PM U.K., Macron of France, Ursula van der Leyen at the EU and the Twitter in charge of the U.N. Any chance you can forward them a copy? Net Zero idiots all, determined to destroy the countries they were elected to FIX.
"...it was the more than 6,000 “products” from oil that supported the tremendous growth in population."
Now you're circling back to why they are pushing Climate Alarmism, and non-renewable "Renewable" Energy.
Oil use makes for better living. Better living facilitates population growth.
Billy Gates & Friends ("Fiends" is more like it) thinks the earth can only sustain 500 Million people as a steady state population goal. But he's not willing to lead by example.
Bless his heart!
Go ahead, Billy and Buddies, do the right thing. We'll carry your torch after you're gone.. Trust us.
Rod, I improved my quality of life by investing in a PV system and electric cars. How much did you have to pay for electricity and gasoline the last nine years?
Excellent summary. Here’s another one: Wind and solar generate electricity part time and nothing else. The infrastructure of humanity, including steel, aluminum, copper, brass, concrete, asphalt, glass, rubber, liquid fuels, gas fuels, lubricants, fertilizers, plastics, most of the electricity, clothing, medicines, and more, are all manufactured by reliable power and products from fossil fuel. Policies mandating renewable energy are more than merely threats to national security. Any policy that proposes to separate mankind from reliable power and products from fossil fuel is a threat to our existence. Mandating and subsidizing renewable energy is simply stupid. Only the ignorant, spoiled, and entitled, and grifters who plan to profit from taxpayer derived subsidy, push the renewable energy concept. Reliable energy and products from fossil fuel are EVERYTHING. We must defend ourselves and our quality of life from green new deal, energy transition, and climate crisis stupidity.
Instead of ignorance-based posts, let's discuss the SCIENCE!
We can start with Ocean Acidification.
The Last Time Oceans Got This Acidic This Fast, 96% of Marine Life Went Extinct
The biggest extinction event in planetary history was driven by the rapid acidification of our oceans, a new study concludes. So much carbon was released into the atmosphere, and the oceans absorbed so much of it so quickly, that marine life simply died off, from the bottom of the food chain up.
That doesn’t bode well for the present, given the disturbingly similar rate that our seas are acidifying right now. Parts of the Pacific, for instance, are already so acidic that sea snails’ shells begin dissolving as soon as they’re born.
I just want to let everyone know I've suspended posting privileges for gkamburoff. I have zero tolerance for any snotty jackass who uses the term "denier." Sorry.
People who support this energy boondoggle are halfway to an oxymoron…
Stop the silly opinions, and let's discuss the science.
You can't do it!
Don’t bet that somebody with multiple engineering degrees can’t discuss it, ‘mkay?
Okay, let's go!
You get to go first. I already brought up global warming and ocean acidification.
My oracles of the Battle against "Climate Change Panic" (for trillions of dollars of taxpayer funded, disgusting graft) are Dr. William Happer and Ronald Stein. There are many others, featured on substack, but after 40 years of shouting in the wilderness the tide may be turning. We need to emphasize, in no uncertain terms, that it's "civilized" world's tax dollars, that fund so called "renewable energy".
Come back and debate the science.
You cannot do it.
Respectfully, there is no real science that supports any kind of climate crisis. There’s nothing to discuss. Look around and tell us where the climate crisis is… where is the real need for an energy transition? You cannot do it.
Thank you for the response.
Ocean Acidification.
The Last Time Oceans Got This Acidic This Fast, 96% of Marine Life Went Extinct
The biggest extinction event in planetary history was driven by the rapid acidification of our oceans, a new study concludes. So much carbon was released into the atmosphere, and the oceans absorbed so much of it so quickly, that marine life simply died off, from the bottom of the food chain up.
That doesn’t bode well for the present, given the disturbingly similar rate that our seas are acidifying right now. Parts of the Pacific, for instance, are already so acidic that sea snails’ shells begin dissolving as soon as they’re born.
Look up the ten hottest years in all of recorded history and tell us what you found.
The IPCC clearly states in their reports that no weather event thus far is clearly attributable to climate change.
Come back when you have a clue or a leg to stand on.
No need, thanks. With respect, we are living in an interglacial period when temperatures are naturally warmer on Earth and UHI effects are numerous (Note: This interglacial period is cooler than all four prior interglacial periods in the last 500,000 years when GHG levels, particularly CO2, were much lower. In other words, GHG levels are higher now, but temperature isn't). Although physics requires that GHGs must contribute to warming, the total impact at current and foreseeable levels is insignificant. 2-deg F average warming in 150 years, does not constitute a crisis now or in the imminent future. I will not consider walking away from my quality of life now, nor will I threaten it for future generations. Cheers!
Just watch Happer on his many videos. Ron Stien doesn't have to argue, facts as plain as the nose on your face.
Come back and debate the science.
You cannot do it.
One of the best write-ups on the subject one is likely to see, and written in a way that is very easily understood.
Yep, renewables are a threat to the grids everywhere as well. The more of these low availability and totally unmanageable power sources we install the bigger the threat to grid operations and grid stability. Just ask Germany! The cost of renewable power is historically higher than anything else. There’s nothing “free” about free energy!
…and a bane on the fishing industry and wildlife See what’s dead under those land windmills then note the effects the drilling underwater is having on the sonar of sea life. They are a POX, as are ‘Solar Farms’. One hailstorm wipes them out but the subsidies ran out so they are left to rot acre after acre. Windmills are fibreglass, never decompose and not recyclable. The ‘Science people’ never thought it out.
I am so glad to see you folks are smarter than the professional engineers, managers, accountants, and construction crews of power utilities. Go tell them and remember to include your names and addresses so you get full credit.
Your mistake is someone never taught you about a "control surface".
Every one of the proponents of "renewable" energy have too small a control surface in their "Green" Energy viability calculations.
If they expand the control surface to include using alternate energy to build and run the equipment that mines the ore, transports it, manufactures the solar panels, wind generators, concrete bases, etc (.... I could go on for paragraphs...) to install a "Green" energy backbone, you'll find out too late that "green" energy can NEVER replace itself when it wears out. It is a dead end road.
Bridge out ahead, Bud, on the Green energy Road to Hell!
Maybe oil, coal, and so on only will last the world a few hundred years, then they'll have to figure something out. But "Green" Energy will knock the population count down way before that. Lots of minds will be lost who could have come up with actual solutions.
the con of cons is that man’s actions affect the climate and if we only destroy our standard of living we will have a perfect climate - the real objective of the climatistas is the destruction of society
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Unable to respond intelligently, some use little drawings to admit ignorance.
The people that need to READ this are Mark Carney stand-in as PM of Canada, Kier Starmer PM U.K., Macron of France, Ursula van der Leyen at the EU and the Twitter in charge of the U.N. Any chance you can forward them a copy? Net Zero idiots all, determined to destroy the countries they were elected to FIX.
"...it was the more than 6,000 “products” from oil that supported the tremendous growth in population."
Now you're circling back to why they are pushing Climate Alarmism, and non-renewable "Renewable" Energy.
Oil use makes for better living. Better living facilitates population growth.
Billy Gates & Friends ("Fiends" is more like it) thinks the earth can only sustain 500 Million people as a steady state population goal. But he's not willing to lead by example.
Bless his heart!
Go ahead, Billy and Buddies, do the right thing. We'll carry your torch after you're gone.. Trust us.
Global warming and ocean acidification.
Check them out.
Come back and tell us what you found.
Rod, I improved my quality of life by investing in a PV system and electric cars. How much did you have to pay for electricity and gasoline the last nine years?
Attention Deniers: I dare any and all of you to debate the science. We do not need ignorant opinions, we need science.
Who can go first? Anybody??
No arguing with gkamburoff, sounds like a wizard from "Lord of the Rings".
I earned a Master of Science in this field in 1982. You will not win any contests against me.
Excellent summary. Here’s another one: Wind and solar generate electricity part time and nothing else. The infrastructure of humanity, including steel, aluminum, copper, brass, concrete, asphalt, glass, rubber, liquid fuels, gas fuels, lubricants, fertilizers, plastics, most of the electricity, clothing, medicines, and more, are all manufactured by reliable power and products from fossil fuel. Policies mandating renewable energy are more than merely threats to national security. Any policy that proposes to separate mankind from reliable power and products from fossil fuel is a threat to our existence. Mandating and subsidizing renewable energy is simply stupid. Only the ignorant, spoiled, and entitled, and grifters who plan to profit from taxpayer derived subsidy, push the renewable energy concept. Reliable energy and products from fossil fuel are EVERYTHING. We must defend ourselves and our quality of life from green new deal, energy transition, and climate crisis stupidity.
Sorry, but that stuff is SO 20th century.
Do these two folks have to pay for electricity and gasoline?
No wonder they are so crabby.
I don't. Liberal Economics.
You poor moron - if you're not a bqq
The science, Toots, the science.
Instead of ignorance-based posts, let's discuss the SCIENCE!
We can start with Ocean Acidification.
The Last Time Oceans Got This Acidic This Fast, 96% of Marine Life Went Extinct
The biggest extinction event in planetary history was driven by the rapid acidification of our oceans, a new study concludes. So much carbon was released into the atmosphere, and the oceans absorbed so much of it so quickly, that marine life simply died off, from the bottom of the food chain up.
That doesn’t bode well for the present, given the disturbingly similar rate that our seas are acidifying right now. Parts of the Pacific, for instance, are already so acidic that sea snails’ shells begin dissolving as soon as they’re born.
Have you been to Oz recently? The Great Barrier Reef is thriving.
Look it up before you bleat. Maybe it looks good from Russia.
Do you still have to pay for electricity and gasoline?
Not us, we invested in a solar system and electric cars and have lived and driven with free electricity for nine years now.
The PV solar system paid back in three years in gasoline savings alone.
Liberal Economics.
Other customers pay for your solar system. Range anxiety yet? 😉
They do not.
And I have no range anxiety, with 107,000 miles driven on the California Sun.
How much did you pay for electricity and gasoline the last nine years??